Talk of Waco

By Fred

May 15, 2008 4:51 AM | Link to this

Lilley is trying to save his own hide with the tenure denial overturns. Now Lilley knows how it feels to face unemployment. What goes around comes around. Lilley Reaps what he Sows….karma. Baylor is the laughing stock of the Big Twelve.

By Fred

May 15, 2008 5:44 AM | Link to this

Lilley is trying to save his own hide in the tenure reversals. Baylor has treated it’s teachers like dirt for years. What goes around comes around…..karma. Now Lilley is sweating bullets too and “reaping what he has sewn”. Baylor is the laughing stock of the Big Twelve.

By Fire Lilley

May 15, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Your headline says it all: contoversial denials. They should hae never been controversial. The university has a fair and balanced tenure commitee. John Lilley, a third tier mind, should never have been placed in this position. Regents, the time to act is now!

By Fred

May 15, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

The old pompus goat is saving his own hide by the tenure reversals.

By Dee

May 15, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

Woo-hoo! Congrats to my bro and the other professors who were granted tenure. It’s been a roller coaster for everyone involved - and it’s great to see right prevail at the end. I don’t think Lilley and his flunky ever even read the original tenure documents, they just made a political decision. Thanks to everyone who supported the profs!

By null

May 15, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

What a wild ride

By Danielle

May 15, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

I am a Baylor student who is appalled by the politically motivated and unexplained behavior by President Lilley and his micro-managing yes-man Randall O’Brien. Lilley has not answered a single direct question instead pointing to policies and the 2012 vision that in no way provides for a president to overstep his boundaries. I am nervous for my professors who are up for tenure in the next few years because Lilley’s behavior has removed every form of precendent in the system. If the primary mission of Baylor University is “equipping students for worldwide service and leadership,” Lilley needs to take a serious look at his priorities.

By WakeUpWaco

May 16, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

Baylor students, faculty, and their Baptist brethren don’t drink and dance (until very recently that is) and would never be involved in drugs or alternative lifestyles. Unfortunately, Waco has become little more than a mirror image of Baylor’s institutionalized hypocrisy and dishonesty. Waco’s best and only hope is for there to be no survivors after Baylor’s internal war runs its course. Attention Regents: A vote to keep Lilley is a vote for the future of Waco.

By Lilley Fired

May 16, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

Goodbye Johny Boy!

By Neutral and confounded

May 22, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

I am a neutral observer, other than the fact that I love Baylor University and want only the best for her. (I’m a Baylor alum and my father-in-law was a professor at Baylor for many years.)… I’m all for treating faculty with dignity and respect, and giving them the tenure they deserve. But, albeit from a distance, it appears to me that Baylor faculty have had a dysfunctional relationship with the President of the university for many years (not just this President). I don’t think it matters who the President is now or will be in the future — Baylor faculty never seem to be happy with how they’re treated. Maybe they really are being treated unfairly; but it seems to be such a persistent pattern, that maybe the problem is with the faculty and not the administration. Perhaps if the faculty treated the Baylor administration with respect they would receive it in return. I am not in the world of academia, so perhaps I don’t understand all the nuances. Is there a constant tug of war between faculty and administration on every campus or just ours?

By neutral answer

May 22, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

In answer to “neutral” above, it is not just Baylor. Other schools experience these types of dynamics between faculty and administration. I believe it is the lack of touch adminstration has with the work that their faculty do. Some have never been in the classroom or had to publish. Some haven’t been there in so long they have forgotten how. As a former member of another faculty of a Baptist school in Texas, I can attest that these dynamics appear to be, at the very least, non-unique. The word systemic comes to mind but that may be a little harsh. As alumni of Baylor, I and my classmates should be so saddened by the destroyed morale among the faculty. Denying tenure, releasing world-class scholars from their contracts, these are just a couple of the ills that are representative of this administration. I hope someone will do something to restore the confidence of the faculty and move Baylor into the future realizing the potential that she has. Regents are you listening?

By neutral answer

May 22, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

In answer to “neutral” above, it is not just Baylor. Other schools experience these types of dynamics between faculty and administration. I believe it is the lack of touch adminstration has with the work that their faculty do. Some have never been in the classroom or had to publish. Some haven’t been there in so long they have forgotten how. As a former member of another faculty of a Baptist school in Texas, I can attest that these dynamics appear to be, at the very least, non-unique. The word systemic comes to mind but that may be a little harsh. As alumni of Baylor, I and my classmates should be so saddened by the destroyed morale among the faculty. Denying tenure, releasing world-class scholars from their contracts, these are just a couple of the ills that are representative of this administration. I hope someone will do something to restore the confidence of the faculty and move Baylor into the future realizing the potential that she has. Regents are you listening?

By former_victim

June 20, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

The fact is that Lilley enjoys this kind of stuff. Yes, he enjoys it. As someone who was axed by him at another college, I can tell you the experience directly. He insists on making the announcement to you directly, in person. He loves being the tough guy, the one who can make the “hard call.” I think he gets no greater enjoyment than when he does this kind of thing. If you had researched him at all before you hired him, you would have found this out. This should be as no surprise to anyone